Integral schmintegral

Amen :)

Nice pic!

Hey Nomz – I know what you mean …

Sending love and hugs,

Mary “Hussein” W.

hang in there baby!  and nothing like a big F You  to make ya feel better

It's funny, Nomali, I was actually happy to hear you say this!  Not that you are always running around saying “Integral-this” and “Integral-that” – I haven't seen you do that – I just relate to your fed up factor!

I agree – it's why I had to get away from the Integral crowd altogether, and why I have spent so little time at BI.  Integral-overload.  I've come to view integral as an important map to help orient us to reality, but just A map, not THE map.  And there are lots of others that can be helpful, which one does not need to cram into the ingral overview to force it to be a part of this so-called larger whole.  (Jungian maps, for instance, despite the claim of pre/trans confusions, are very helpful).  But I so hear you and, ironically will be seeing you tomorrow for Don's presentation.  (he's actually been critical of Ken's version of Integral as well, esp. the very idea of “Third Tier”. 

Hug!

well said, Keith :)

I still haven't decided if I am going to see Beck tomorrow.  Are he and his co-author still taking pot-shots at each other, or have they worked out their differences?

this is a coral statement, at least!